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Post by J.O.N ((Dragonwing)) on May 12, 2010 9:11:08 GMT -5
The only reason we hesitated on letting -everyone- vote is... okay, hypothetical scenario: semifinals: Mel vs. [somebody who barely made it this far, mostly on luck] & Kaez vs. [anybody] Would it not be so that I might be tempted to vote for the person who -isn't- Mel, because Mel is... Mel? That's what we were afraid of. Why would we vote against Mel? I would think it would be more that we would be inclined to vote for Mel. Or are you saying we would more vote for the other contestant as their the newbie/unknown? |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on May 12, 2010 10:18:11 GMT -5
He's saying vote off the main competition. Take out the stronger writer to have an easy win for the next round. Eg(taken further)
Mel vs Ref & Kaez vs Alice
Ref vs Kaez -- Mel vs Alice
It would be very, very tempting for me to vote for Kaez to "die" because I know I can compete with Alice. Not so much Kaez. Same goes for the other side of the competition. Kaez would want to vote Mel off because writing against me would be an easy win for him.
This is just an example. I'm not saying Kaez and I would ever do such a thing. I'm also not saying that anybody's writing is subpar!
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Post by NotAlice on May 12, 2010 10:27:41 GMT -5
And Mel is a good example to use since she whooped everyones' butts in the Cup the other month. - And from Ditz's example - this arena thing? - Writing against someone like Mel or Kaez would be like... suicide  Well... wouldn't like my chances against you either Ditz |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on May 12, 2010 10:33:44 GMT -5
And Mel is a good example to use since she whooped everyones' butts in the Cup the other month. - And from Ditz's example - this arena thing? - Writing against someone like Mel or Kaez would be like... suicide Well... wouldn't like my chances against you either Ditz Quit putting yourself down I know for sure you'd kick my butt if the topic so happened to be "Paranormal" shit. Seriously QUESTION: Where are you going to be finding the "sentences" for the match? |
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Post by NotAlice on May 12, 2010 10:48:37 GMT -5
Instead, the writers are given a beginning to a story that they must finish. These beginnings are written by anybody on AWR who wishes to do so, from now on. ?? |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on May 12, 2010 10:52:12 GMT -5
Guess that answers that one! Another Question Can the competitors hand in beginnings? Or would that be "iffy" considering how the competitor could manipulate it? |
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Post by Dylaria on May 12, 2010 12:25:57 GMT -5
I'd just say if you are still in then you can't vote. Kill the ideas before they can take hold. Once your out you can vote yourself into a coma.
The above scenarios I hadn't thought of myself but I have to admit it's clever if underhanded. Not that I would anyway (I doubt I would vote if involved even if I could) but I suggest not leaving the opening for anyone to take that shot.
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on May 12, 2010 12:45:43 GMT -5
Voting off the "best" happens all the time on game-shows. Of course, I would never use it in a writing competition. I was just explaining what Kaez meant for Jon :] In fact, thinking about it, I would want to face a tough competitor. I love a good challenge.
I like Dyl's idea. If you are in - no vote. However, that would make the first few rounds a little difficult, considering how many are involved and the lack of voters.
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Post by Dylaria on May 12, 2010 12:53:32 GMT -5
Good point and one I don't have an easy counter to.
*thinking cap time*
Edit: I don't watch game shows as I believe they are almost all rigged in some way. Especially the ones like Survivor and the like.
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Post by Kaez on May 12, 2010 13:41:31 GMT -5
Well then it's easy: in round one, anyone can vote. Starting in round two, when half of everyone in the competition is out, votes are only those who aren't in. Problem solves, ja?
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Post by Dylaria on May 12, 2010 13:44:28 GMT -5
Well then it's easy: in round one, anyone can vote. Starting in round two, when half of everyone in the competition is out, votes are only those who aren't in. Problem solves, ja? As long as there is some oversight on the voting to ensure the strongest aren't all kicked out unfairly sure. |
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Post by Ceron on May 12, 2010 13:44:46 GMT -5
Well then it's easy: in round one, anyone can vote. Starting in round two, when half of everyone in the competition is out, votes are only those who aren't in. Problem solves, ja? Long as we all don't secretly form teams to vote each other through the first few rounds, sure. |
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Post by Kaez on May 12, 2010 13:53:28 GMT -5
Well then it's easy: in round one, anyone can vote. Starting in round two, when half of everyone in the competition is out, votes are only those who aren't in. Problem solves, ja? As long as there is some oversight on the voting to ensure the strongest aren't all kicked out unfairly sure. Yeah, but like Ref said, I think we've got a will for competition here, I'm cautiously optimistic. In any case, I'm sure we'll know if it's going down -- should be obvious, considering you have to leave feedback. You can't insult someone's story without leaving reasonable feedback for doing so. Look at something like Out of the Frozen North. You couldn't insult that if you -tried-. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 12, 2010 14:26:40 GMT -5
The only reason we hesitated on letting -everyone- vote is... okay, hypothetical scenario: semifinals: Mel vs. [somebody who barely made it this far, mostly on luck] & Kaez vs. [anybody] Would it not be so that I might be tempted to vote for the person who -isn't- Mel, because Mel is... Mel? That's what we were afraid of. Simple. Whomever is running the competition create their matchups secretly. All submissions are PMed to the Host and posted by said host anonymously. Then when judging is done, winners of the round are announced and they move on to the next. No one knows who they are voting for, only the content of the story can be judged. It's like if all the gladiators were wearing masks. |
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Post by Ceron on May 12, 2010 14:31:06 GMT -5
The only reason we hesitated on letting -everyone- vote is... okay, hypothetical scenario: semifinals: Mel vs. [somebody who barely made it this far, mostly on luck] & Kaez vs. [anybody] Would it not be so that I might be tempted to vote for the person who -isn't- Mel, because Mel is... Mel? That's what we were afraid of. Simple. Whomever is running the competition create their matchups secretly. All submissions are PMed to the Host and posted by said host anonymously. Then when judging is done, winners of the round are announced and they move on to the next. No one knows who they are voting for, only the content of the story can be judged. It's like if all the gladiators were wearing masks. That's a bit too secretive, I'd rather trust everyone's honor to not cheat while voting. |
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