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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 29, 2015 19:04:16 GMT -5
So no opinions, got it. Lol. You're welcome to your opinions. All I'm saying is that if that not having reviews in time is "distracting," you might need to find a better way to occupy your time. |
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:05:35 GMT -5
So no opinions, got it. Lol. You're welcome to your opinions. All I'm saying is that if that not having reviews in time is "distracting," you might need to find a better way to occupy your time. Simmer down there, mate. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 29, 2015 19:11:52 GMT -5
You're welcome to your opinions. All I'm saying is that if that not having reviews in time is "distracting," you might need to find a better way to occupy your time. Simmer down there, mate. . . . ? |
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:18:58 GMT -5
It's a phrase that means "calm down". Sorry. My inner Texan came out. |
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Post by Sensar on May 29, 2015 19:19:57 GMT -5
It sounds to me like this might an issue you want to bring to your team, Tam, and not to the judges.
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:20:51 GMT -5
It sounds to me like this might an issue you want to bring to your team, Tam, and not to the judges. But the judges are the ones in charge of the organization of the competition, not my team. |
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Post by Sensar on May 29, 2015 19:25:51 GMT -5
It sounds to me like this might an issue you want to bring to your team, Tam, and not to the judges. But the judges are the ones in charge of the organization of the competition, not my team. The issue is that people are doing what they're supposed to be doing, right? Okay, sure, reviews are late, shit happens, but no matter the reviews the task of the team is to get the stories in, otherwise it's not a competition at all and Team Zovo gets all the points, and, more importantly, the feedback when the judges do have the time to review. Rather than pin the issues you're facing on the judges, look inward. This only hurts what you want in the long run, and I imagine isn't making your teammates very happy about the fact you're flailing accusations in public, either. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 29, 2015 19:26:56 GMT -5
It's a phrase that means "calm down". Sorry. My inner Texan came out. Yeah, I know what it means. I was wondering why you felt the need to say it. |
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Post by James on May 29, 2015 19:31:07 GMT -5
Great, now Sensar's changed his avatar too. I'm still confused by Zovo misuse of your and you're and then I realise it's Dragon.
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:33:46 GMT -5
But the judges are the ones in charge of the organization of the competition, not my team. The issue is that people are doing what they're supposed to be doing, right? Okay, sure, reviews are late, shit happens, but no matter the reviews the task of the team is to get the stories in, otherwise it's not a competition at all and Team Zovo gets all the points, and, more importantly, the feedback when the judges do have the time to review. Rather than pin the issues you're facing on the judges, look inward. This only hurts what you want in the long run, and I imagine isn't making your teammates very happy about the fact you're flailing accusations in public, either. My issue is that I don't think the rounds are complete unless the reviews are in, so why not delay to give the judges time to judge so we can all move forward to the next round? As it stands, both teams have 2/3 stories submitted in the 4th round. Zovo says people are working on the 5th round, and my team is working on the 5th round, too. But instead of giving up on one of the topics, in this case Comedy, I say we should wait until the judges get finished with the 3rd round, and then give two days on Comedy, since people should have already been writing, since it seems to me that the delay in reviews is delaying everything else. More stories equals more feedback equals more learning, if you want to get into other subjects of an argument. I'm not accusing my teammates, and I'm confused as to why you believe I'm accusing them when it seems to me both sides are having the issue, at least in the 4th round with Comedy. I want to give the judges more time to judge, then give Comedy writers more time to do what they should have been doing if they were, perhaps, distracted by not having reviews from the previous round. And as a result of giving more time in those two rounds, we'd need more time in the last round, too, since before Zovo mentioned his team is working on round 5, it seems that both teams were stuck or moving slowly to a finish, waiting for previous rounds. Edit: Ultimately, it doesn't matter, because James and Zovo both disagree, so nothing will change. |
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Post by James on May 29, 2015 19:45:45 GMT -5
But instead of giving up on one of the topics, in this case Comedy, We haven't given up on it. Taed and I have both said on several occasions that if anyone can get something in for it, they're welcome to. Team Zovo is by the sounds of it. Which, again, is something I have a problem with in both principal and in practical terms. I'm more concerned that the comedy writer is also writing in Round 5. Then there's an issue. But the answer isn't to delay the entire competition, but just to say to that writer: "It's cool. Get comedy in asap and then get round 5 in as quick as you can." Where did this impression come from that Team Zovo wasn't writing either? Neither team have been talkative throughout the entire competition. I had just thought that like every other round, people have been writing away from the last few days. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 29, 2015 19:49:48 GMT -5
The issue is that people are doing what they're supposed to be doing, right? Okay, sure, reviews are late, shit happens, but no matter the reviews the task of the team is to get the stories in, otherwise it's not a competition at all and Team Zovo gets all the points, and, more importantly, the feedback when the judges do have the time to review. Rather than pin the issues you're facing on the judges, look inward. This only hurts what you want in the long run, and I imagine isn't making your teammates very happy about the fact you're flailing accusations in public, either. My issue is that I don't think the rounds are complete unless the reviews are in, so why not delay to give the judges time to judge so we can all move forward to the next round? As it stands, both teams have 2/3 stories submitted in the 4th round. Zovo says people are working on the 5th round, and my team is working on the 5th round, too. But instead of giving up on one of the topics, in this case Comedy, I say we should wait until the judges get finished with the 3rd round, and then give two days on Comedy, since people should have already been writing, since it seems to me that the delay in reviews is delaying everything else.More stories equals more feedback equals more learning, if you want to get into other subjects of an argument. I'm not accusing my teammates, and I'm confused as to why you believe I'm accusing them when it seems to me both sides are having the issue, at least in the 4th round with Comedy. I want to give the judges more time to judge, then give Comedy writers more time to do what they should have been doing if they were, perhaps, distracted by not having reviews from the previous round. And as a result of giving more time in those two rounds, we'd need more time in the last round, too, since before Zovo mentioned his team is working on round 5, it seems that both teams were stuck or moving slowly to a finish, waiting for previous rounds. Edit: Ultimately, it doesn't matter, because James and Zovo both disagree, so nothing will change. You know I don't have any say in this right.... I'm not a judge, I'm just a coach. I'm just voicing my opinion. But I guess that's not allowed. But seriously; that part that I emphasized up there, that's the part of your argument I'm not understanding. I don't see how the delay in reviews are delaying anything on the writing side since they are two separate processes, involving two separate sets of people, performing separate tasks on separate timelines. Now, if the situation were reversed and reviews we being held up because the writers weren't finishing in a timely manner, I could see your argument; but writing the next round isn't even remotely dependent on whether or not you've gotten reviews from the previous round. Then you went ahead and assumed that both teams were having problems because of this non-issue, and even now that I've corrected you and so far no one from your team has stepped up and backed you; you still persist that this is somehow a problem which is crippling the competition when, as far as I can tell, you're the -only- person who has a problem with it. So, I guess, to summarize... My problem isn't that you have or are voicing your opinion, or even that your opinion is opposed to mine; it's that you're not making any sense. You keep positioning yourself as this representative of the people who's pointing out the elephant in the room when, so far, you're the only one who sees it. |
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:53:56 GMT -5
Like I said earlier, Zovo, it's a concern I have myself, and I only mention the others because it might possibly reinforce my position. If no one shares the opinion, that doesn't change that I think it should change because I, myself, don't like it. I'm only retreading what I've said earlier to Sensar because he asked me.
Bringing up a point I already addressed isn't something sensible, if anything.
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Post by Croswynd on May 29, 2015 19:56:09 GMT -5
But instead of giving up on one of the topics, in this case Comedy, We haven't given up on it. Taed and I have both said on several occasions that if anyone can get something in for it, they're welcome to. Team Zovo is by the sounds of it. Which, again, is something I have a problem with in both principal and in practical terms. I'm more concerned that the comedy writer is also writing in Round 5. Then there's an issue. But the answer isn't to delay the entire competition, but just to say to that writer: "It's cool. Get comedy in asap and then get round 5 in as quick as you can." Where did this impression come from that Team Zovo wasn't writing either? Neither team have been talkative throughout the entire competition. I had just thought that like every other round, people have been writing away from the last few days. I already know your stance on this, James. I'm just responding to Sensar. You've made yourself clear to me, unless you're responding for Sensar's benefit? My impression came from Kaez mentioning the other team was having the same trouble we were with participation, too, earlier in the week. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on May 29, 2015 19:57:24 GMT -5
Like I said earlier, Zovo, it's a concern I have myself, and I only mention the others because it might possibly reinforce my position. If no one shares the opinion, that doesn't change that I think it should change because I, myself, don't like it. I'm only retreading what I've said earlier to Sensar because he asked me. Bringing up a point I already addressed isn't something sensible, if anything. Well... Seems to me the reason no one has finished Comedy is because the authors were abducted by terrorists. Red Team paid the ransom and got our writer back short a single ear and part of his nose... and if Blue Team would just cooperate with the demands you'd be moving forward as well. I suspect others also believe this, reinforcing my position... maybe. |
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