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Post by James on May 9, 2015 21:14:52 GMT -5
It would appear that the hive mind is in full effect. I thought there was a good chance for a spilt vote in Match 3, but on the whole I'm not that surprised. |
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Post by Sekot on May 9, 2015 22:21:44 GMT -5
I'm...kinda surprised actually. For the most part, I would have rated pretty much everything exactly the opposite.
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 22:27:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I know Pete has quite a different opinion as well. I can see that alternate view for two of the matches; they were pretty tight.
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Post by Kaez on May 9, 2015 22:28:37 GMT -5
Interesting reviews. Some were as I expected, some weren't.
I appreciate the length and the thoroughness from both the judges. That's no small time investment.
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Post by Sekot on May 9, 2015 22:34:09 GMT -5
Interesting reviews. Some were as I expected, some weren't. I appreciate the length and the thoroughness from both the judges. That's no small time investment. Yeah, the thoroughness is pretty great. I was expecting like a number system which we've had in the past. I'm kind of glad it isn't that way, even if you may have scored it invisibly. |
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 22:34:53 GMT -5
Team Zovo's cockiness is just about being justified at the moment. It's for Team Kaez to try and grab back some initiative in Round 2.
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 22:36:55 GMT -5
Interesting reviews. Some were as I expected, some weren't. I appreciate the length and the thoroughness from both the judges. That's no small time investment. Yeah, the thoroughness is pretty great. I was expecting like a number system which we've had in the past. I'm kind of glad it isn't that way, even if you may have scored it invisibly. Zovo convinced me of ditching the number system the last time we judged a competition. |
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Post by Sekot on May 9, 2015 22:43:50 GMT -5
Yeah, the thoroughness is pretty great. I was expecting like a number system which we've had in the past. I'm kind of glad it isn't that way, even if you may have scored it invisibly. Zovo convinced me of ditching the number system the last time we judged a competition. Good. It was always a little silly, in my opinion. |
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Post by Kaez on May 9, 2015 22:48:24 GMT -5
Team Zovo's cockiness is just about being justified at the moment. It's for Team Kaez to try and grab back some initiative in Round 2. ...is it, though? It's not. I'm not worried. I'm just realizing that catering to the judges is more of a factor than I first assumed it would be. You're (you and Matteo) are ultimate giving wins to stories you liked more, everything else is semantics. And that's not a fault of yours, just means that our goal is not actually to write -good stories-, it's to write -stories James and Matteo will like-. Which makes things interesting. But, again, I'm not worried. I've got a plan for an alien sex robot named Macintosh, whose dialogue is pulled from my theoretical physics textbook, who teams up with an urban fantasy detective Oxford alum whose dialogue is entirely in Old English pentameter. It's gonna be great and we're going to win all the points. |
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 22:55:15 GMT -5
Team Zovo's cockiness is just about being justified at the moment. It's for Team Kaez to try and grab back some initiative in Round 2. I'm just realizing that catering to the judges is more of a factor than I first assumed it would be. You're (you and Matteo) are ultimate giving wins to stories you liked more, everything else is semantics. And that's not a fault of yours, just means that our goal is not actually to write -good stories-, it's to write -stories James and Matteo will like-. I'm not so sure about that. Obviously, our tastes are going to be important because no one is impartial. However, I feel like the three winners were deserved beyond just our tastes (if anything Matteo and I choosing the not AI story confirms that). The only one where there's an issue is probably Match 1. And I think the fact was (and I tried to pinpoint this): Team Zovo's story didn't -ignore- the topic. It just didn't get it quite right. But. But, on the flip side, we can't give a win to a story purely on the grounds that it did the topic better. To go back to our old points system as an example: Use of Topic was 10/50, not 50/50. If anything the Use of Topic is probably more important now than it used to be. |
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 22:56:19 GMT -5
Zovo convinced me of ditching the number system the last time we judged a competition. Good. It was always a little silly, in my opinion. I think it helped guide people's feedback for a time when we were just starting to review each other's work. But now, yeah, it's probably not worth it. |
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Post by Kaez on May 9, 2015 23:08:19 GMT -5
I feel like the three winners were deserved beyond just our tastes ...well you're you! Of course you think that! I think all of my opinions are -right-, too! That's what opinions are! The things you think are right! Match 1 is a matter of technicalities. I'll grant that, even if I disagree with it. Match 2 is the matter of taste. But let's not make it a habit of getting into a massive discussion about the content and quality of posts after the judgments are posted. I feel like nothing good would come from that. |
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Post by J.O.N ((Dragonwing)) on May 9, 2015 23:17:36 GMT -5
What is this, are the trees quaking in their roots?
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Post by James on May 9, 2015 23:21:12 GMT -5
I honestly don't mind people questioning my judgment as long as everyone realises that no decisions are being changed. Because, who knows, maybe more information will come out that can help the writers.
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Post by Kaez on May 9, 2015 23:28:08 GMT -5
What is this, are the trees quaking in their roots? My level of emotional investment in the judges' feedback is about as low as it comes, personally. I'm filling the role as public voice of private concerns of team members. As far as I'm concerned, the "competitive" aspect of this thing is beyond secondary compared to the fact that it's supposed to make everyone a better writer, and therefore -any- feedback from the judges which is thorough and sincere, even if I personally disagree with it, is good and welcome and what this whole thing is about. |
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