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Post by Kaez on Jun 29, 2010 15:40:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I've not reviewed anything since the first round, but I plan to review the finals.
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jun 29, 2010 15:40:37 GMT -5
Being a bit of a meanie here but I think there should be some kind of penalty if somebody decides not to write and likewise with people who signed up to participate but never reviewed. We all knew the deal going in. Write and review. Agro never stated it outright at the beginning but its totally true. Dunno what the penalty should be but damn defaulting sucks and there has been a lot! It especially sucks for the people who are really trying! Maybe a later competition they shouldn't be allowed to write - or are required to put a month of judging in for the assignment. Anyways: This is just mean-competitive-Reffy talking.  You can mostly ignore this post |
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Post by The Drall on Jun 29, 2010 15:40:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I've not reviewed anything since the first round, but I plan to review the finals. Most excellent! |
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Post by The Drall on Jun 29, 2010 15:47:01 GMT -5
Being a bit of a meanie here but I think there should be some kind of penalty if somebody decides not to write and likewise with people who signed up to participate but never reviewed. We all knew the deal going in. Write and review. Agro never stated it outright at the beginning but its totally true. Dunno what the penalty should be but damn defaulting sucks and there has been a lot! It especially sucks for the people who are really trying! Maybe a later competition they shouldn't be allowed to write - or are required to put a month of judging in for the assignment. Anyways: This is just mean-competitive-Reffy talking. You can mostly ignore this post I've actually been thinking something along those lines. I completely agree that everyone knew what this was going in. Hell, Kaez even wanted us all to confirm we would be sticking with this, and we all confirmed. Still, we had defaults. And while it isn't obligatory to review and vote, it isn't fair to the others still in the competition. They're the ones working their asses off night and day, trying to put down good stories, and they've all been excellent. The fact that most people simply just aren't reading is...well, pathetic, I guess. There are exceptions, of course, as there always are, but you can't use the excuse "It's time consuming". There were more reviews in the first round than in this one. There were a LOT more stories to review in the first round and, even if they were shorter, it still took awhile to do them all. So there should be no reason those same people can't review these stories. If the writers can take time from their own busy schedules to not only write, but write well, the reviewers should find time to simply read the stories, review, and vote. It's not that long a process, to be honest. Read a bit, take a break, read the rest, take a break, review and vote. They don't all have to be done in one sitting. |
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Post by o ding on Jun 29, 2010 15:50:20 GMT -5
Being a bit of a meanie here but I think there should be some kind of penalty if somebody decides not to write and likewise with people who signed up to participate but never reviewed. We all knew the deal going in. Write and review. Agro never stated it outright at the beginning but its totally true. Dunno what the penalty should be but damn defaulting sucks and there has been a lot! It especially sucks for the people who are really trying! Maybe a later competition they shouldn't be allowed to write - or are required to put a month of judging in for the assignment. Anyways: This is just mean-competitive-Reffy talking. You can mostly ignore this post I've actually been thinking something along those lines. I completely agree that everyone knew what this was going in. Hell, Kaez even wanted us all to confirm we would be sticking with this, and we all confirmed. Still, we had defaults. And while it isn't obligatory to review and vote, it isn't fair to the others still in the competition. They're the ones working their asses off night and day, trying to put down good stories, and they've all been excellent. The fact that most people simply just aren't reading is...well, pathetic, I guess. There are exceptions, of course, as there always are, but you can't use the excuse "It's time consuming". There were more reviews in the first round than in this one. There were a LOT more stories to review in the first round and, even if they were shorter, it still took awhile to do them all. So there should be no reason those same people can't review these stories. If the writers can take time from their own busy schedules to not only write, but write well, the reviewers should find time to simply read the stories, review, and vote. It's not that long a process, to be honest. Read a bit, take a break, read the rest, take a break, review and vote. They don't all have to be done in one sitting. Well, I was going to review for the finals, but now...probably not. |
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Post by The Drall on Jun 29, 2010 15:52:18 GMT -5
I've actually been thinking something along those lines. I completely agree that everyone knew what this was going in. Hell, Kaez even wanted us all to confirm we would be sticking with this, and we all confirmed. Still, we had defaults. And while it isn't obligatory to review and vote, it isn't fair to the others still in the competition. They're the ones working their asses off night and day, trying to put down good stories, and they've all been excellent. The fact that most people simply just aren't reading is...well, pathetic, I guess. There are exceptions, of course, as there always are, but you can't use the excuse "It's time consuming". There were more reviews in the first round than in this one. There were a LOT more stories to review in the first round and, even if they were shorter, it still took awhile to do them all. So there should be no reason those same people can't review these stories. If the writers can take time from their own busy schedules to not only write, but write well, the reviewers should find time to simply read the stories, review, and vote. It's not that long a process, to be honest. Read a bit, take a break, read the rest, take a break, review and vote. They don't all have to be done in one sitting. Well, I was going to review for the finals, but now...probably not. To spite me, yes? |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jun 29, 2010 15:53:45 GMT -5
Well, I was going to review for the finals, but now...probably not. I'm just grumping. Don't let that stop you. It could be fun to read those stories and vote for them! |
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Post by o ding on Jun 29, 2010 15:53:54 GMT -5
Well, I was going to review for the finals, but now...probably not. To spite me, yes? More or less, yeah. |
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Post by James on Jun 29, 2010 15:54:02 GMT -5
I also would point out it's not a case of people not reading, well necessarily anyway. I've read every single story so far, but I've been pretty non-existant with the actual reviewing of stories. Which means I have no high ground to stand on, but I can understand why they aren't a cornucopia of reviews.
I am a little annoyed with drop-outs though.
*sage nod*
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Post by Kaez on Jun 29, 2010 15:55:22 GMT -5
Being a bit of a meanie here but I think there should be some kind of penalty if somebody decides not to write and likewise with people who signed up to participate but never reviewed. We all knew the deal going in. Write and review. Agro never stated it outright at the beginning but its totally true. Dunno what the penalty should be but damn defaulting sucks and there has been a lot! It especially sucks for the people who are really trying! Maybe a later competition they shouldn't be allowed to write - or are required to put a month of judging in for the assignment. Anyways: This is just mean-competitive-Reffy talking. You can mostly ignore this post This is a forum. For people to casually get together and write and talk and such. We don't really do "enforcing". As much as the idea might be appealing, it just... no. We don't do that. |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jun 29, 2010 15:55:27 GMT -5
I am a little annoyed with drop-outs though. *sage nod* All that work you've put into this! I could understand you being more than annoyed  |
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Post by James on Jun 29, 2010 15:57:07 GMT -5
We don't really do "enforcing". As much as the idea might be appealing, it just... no. We don't do that. Especially after nearly 2 years of being the most relaxed team of admins ever to have graced a forum. |
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Post by The Drall on Jun 29, 2010 15:58:07 GMT -5
So, if I had said, "WE DON'T WANT ANY VOTES", you would have voted for this, am I correct? |
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jun 29, 2010 15:58:18 GMT -5
This is a forum. For people to casually get together and write and talk and such. We don't really do "enforcing". As much as the idea might be appealing, it just... no. We don't do that. I know - I know. Just me grumping. Look at the Cup and me. Defaulted until the really good writers and got my ass whooped. It sucks. (Sucks for the organizer too!) AWR isn't about capitol punishment. I get that. Normally I'd be all YAY lets get people writing. ... like I said: just grumping. |
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Jun 29, 2010 15:58:40 GMT -5
Once we start imposing penalties for non-participation we begin the downward journey on the slippery slope to "Abondonedforumville."
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You can mostly ignore this post 
