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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 18:01:01 GMT -5
The best thing about shipping are the names. Fandoms are scary places. Bronies are a good example. Bronies are a good example, though Harry Potter fandom springs to mind more readily. Shipping in general is just terrible. Without a rhyme, reason, or examination of anything remotely resembling romance, relationships between characters are pointless. But I'll tolerate it, since I don't have to read it. Yay!
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Post by James on Jul 2, 2012 18:05:48 GMT -5
Without a rhyme, reason, or examination of anything remotely resembling romance, relationships between characters are pointless. There's generally a textual or screen basis behind most shipping, though. Isn't there? I don't really frequent tumblr or the like so I don't know how far and crazy shipping goes, but I've always had the impression that most ships start due to something that opened up a possibility of romance in the source itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 18:07:29 GMT -5
Without a rhyme, reason, or examination of anything remotely resembling romance, relationships between characters are pointless. There's generally a textual or screen basis behind most shipping, though. Isn't there? I don't really frequent tumblr or the like so I don't know how far and crazy shipping goes, but I've always had the impression that most ships start due to something that opened up a possibility of romance in the source itself. Most shipping is clutching at straws. In my mind, shipping is just slapping two characters together regardless of who they are, basis or not. If there is a basis and it's written intelligently, it can't be shipping, at least by the definition I use.
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Post by Sekot on Jul 2, 2012 18:21:31 GMT -5
That's a very limited definition of shipping because I can't think of any sort of shipping that doesn't have some sort of textual evidence. But then again, I'm not real big in any fandoms.
Edit: I lied, I'm familiar with a bit of Glee's fandom just because I used to like the show. That's some crazy shit.
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Post by James on Jul 2, 2012 18:23:42 GMT -5
There's generally a textual or screen basis behind most shipping, though. Isn't there? I don't really frequent tumblr or the like so I don't know how far and crazy shipping goes, but I've always had the impression that most ships start due to something that opened up a possibility of romance in the source itself. Most shipping is clutching at straws. In my mind, shipping is just slapping two characters together regardless of who they are, basis or not. If there is a basis and it's written intelligently, it can't be shipping, at least by the definition I use. I think we have completely different meanings of shipping. I might be out of the internet loop here, but when I stumbled across the phrase a long, long time ago it was definitely more grounded in fact. Like Harry and Hermione, which you could at least make a reasonable argument for. Or T.K and Kari, because fuck you Digimon, seriously? Those two didn't get together? *cough* That may have been the first ever time I sat there and thought "the writer is wrong."
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Post by Matteo ((Taed)) on Jul 2, 2012 18:25:18 GMT -5
What's the difference between shipping and slash?
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Post by James on Jul 2, 2012 18:28:43 GMT -5
What's the difference between shipping and slash? According to wikipedia, slash originated from Kirk/Spock fanfiction.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 18:29:53 GMT -5
That's a very limited definition of shipping because I can't think of any sort of shipping that doesn't have some sort of textual evidence. But then again, I'm not real big in any fandoms. Perhaps, but based on what I've seen in the brony fandom, at least, any kind of tie between two characters, such as a friendship in the show, leads to a shipping fic. That's not enough to base the relationship entirely on, which seems to be the case for most shipping. If there's no real romance, it's shipping. It's like the difference between erotica and smut. One is romantic and usually examines the relationship heavily as opposed to the sex (even if it includes it with some attempt at subtley), while the other is purely for the physical descriptions of sex for no reason other than to have it written. Maybe that's a bad example and maybe my vision of shipping is narrow, but if there's a reasoning behind a relationship I can see, I don't see it as shipping. I just see it as a very possible romance. Still, if canon of the original source material renders the point moot, I modify my explanation of what shipping is. In the case that a previously or current story diverges from canon so far as to be completely different, it's purely based on how it's written to determine whether it's shipping or not.
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Post by James on Jul 2, 2012 18:31:23 GMT -5
That's a very limited definition of shipping because I can't think of any sort of shipping that doesn't have some sort of textual evidence. But then again, I'm not real big in any fandoms. Perhaps, but based on what I've seen in the brony fandom, at least, any kind of tie between two characters, such as a friendship in the show, leads to a shipping fic. Are we starting to base concepts on what is seen in the "brony fandom"? Are we doing this now?
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Jul 2, 2012 18:34:59 GMT -5
Sometimes I ship AWR. . . Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 18:35:22 GMT -5
Perhaps, but based on what I've seen in the brony fandom, at least, any kind of tie between two characters, such as a friendship in the show, leads to a shipping fic. Are we starting to base concepts on what is seen in the "brony fandom"? Are we doing this now? Due to the large amounts of shipping in it and what I've seen in the Harry Potter fandom being comparable to it, yes. I am. I don't know about you.
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Post by James on Jul 2, 2012 18:37:57 GMT -5
Sometimes I ship AWR. . . Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right. This post requires a lot more detail. Are we starting to base concepts on what is seen in the "brony fandom"? Are we doing this now? Due to the large amounts of shipping in it and what I've seen in the Harry Potter fandom being comparable to it, yes. I don't know how the land lies with the series being completed, but while the books were still being written, Harry Potter shipping was definitely grounded in fact trying to use the text and pointing out potential romantic interaction between character. Mugglenet had an entire essay section devoted to it, which I stay well cleared of when I saw that the first one was 18,000 words long.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 18:39:42 GMT -5
I don't know how the land lies with the series being completed, but while the books were still being written, Harry Potter shipping was definitely grounded in fact trying to use the text and pointing out potential romantic interaction between character. Mugglenet had an entire essay section devoted to it, which I stay well cleared of when I saw that the first one was 18,000 words long. Perhaps shipping had a different definition back then, but everything I've seen lately with a shipping tag or connotation has been what I've referenced before. Internet slang evolves swiftly.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Jul 2, 2012 18:48:08 GMT -5
Sometimes I ship AWR. . . Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right. This post requires a lot more detail. Back when I was putting together notes for the "A World Removed" project (which is dead, if anyone was wondering,the mood has passed) I had to do a little shipping for story purposes. In my notes I had shipped Lilam and Bloodeye (go me!). I also shipped Shinga and Schro. . . Time will tell.
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Post by Sekot on Jul 2, 2012 18:53:23 GMT -5
It doesn't really help that Bronies are notorious for shipping.
I found a definition on another forum that I frequent that has a thread discussing fandoms:
"Coupling up characters (or sometimes more than two characters). Can be canon/head-canon/non-canon and of any sexual bent. It's the most generic term available for the practice. Doesn't inherently indicate pornography... but it usually means pornography. Tend to be used as an identifier among fandoms. ("I'm a Snarry fan" would mean the person enjoyed Snape/Harry creations.) Couples are known as "ships." Expect lots of ship-related puns ("I said that ship!" or "I'll go down with that ship!") because, you know, like, ship means the same things as, like, boat. You know, in the water boats."
And apparently slashfic is a form of shipping that is exclusively homosexual. Hence Spock/Kirk.
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