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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Feb 18, 2016 15:41:11 GMT -5
Good find, thanks for that.
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Post by James on Feb 18, 2016 15:52:47 GMT -5
The other thing I'd say about learning how to plot is this: just read. Read a lot. Read widely. Read lots of different genres.
If you're reading a lot of fiction, I find it hard to believe that you won't such picking up on how a plot should be structured.
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Post by Kaez on Feb 18, 2016 16:49:02 GMT -5
The other thing I'd say about learning how to plot is this: just read. Read a lot. Read widely. Read lots of different genres. If you're reading a lot of fiction, I find it hard to believe that you won't such picking up on how a plot should be structured. That goes for not just plot, though. That's just general good writing advice. If you want to write stuff that you enjoy, read stuff that you enjoy and copy it. I was writing stuff that I basically 'stole' off of authors I liked way before I found my own voice and style. It was an instrumental step in doing so. |
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Post by James on Feb 18, 2016 16:56:30 GMT -5
If you want to write stuff that you enjoy, read stuff that you enjoy and copy it. Terry Pratchett actually had some different advice for that. He said you should read genres that you don't write in, because then you can do things with your genre that other people who are insular are not doing. But yeah, I'd definitely start off reading stuff like what you want to write, and then start branching out. |
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Post by Kaez on Feb 18, 2016 19:31:25 GMT -5
If you want to write stuff that you enjoy, read stuff that you enjoy and copy it. Terry Pratchett actually had some different advice for that. He said you should read genres that you don't write in, because then you can do things with your genre that other people who are insular are not doing. But yeah, I'd definitely start off reading stuff like what you want to write, and then start branching out. Hmm. That's interesting. I agree. Because what Pratchett describes is exactly what I do now. I intentionally avoid reading things that are too much like what I want to write because I know it'll influence me and I no longer what to be influenced specifically. But you shouldn't start there, IMO. |
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Post by James on Feb 19, 2016 17:08:49 GMT -5
So, a general question to people:
What do you want from the next AWR competition?
Not what format it should be or anything. Just what do you want from it? What type of things would be -helpful- to you?
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Post by The Counter Cultist(Sawyer) on Feb 19, 2016 21:04:57 GMT -5
To be honest I'd love to get some world-building feed back, both on the world itself, and how well I'm doing in constructing it.
But that's just me.
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Post by Kaez on Feb 19, 2016 21:06:45 GMT -5
To be honest I'd love to get some world-building feed back, both on the world itself, and how well I'm doing in constructing it. But that's just me. Link me to stuff. Provide me with some specific and general questions alike. Show me things. Always glad to talk worldbuilding. |
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Post by James on Feb 19, 2016 21:14:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel like worldbuilding works better by people just asking for feedback. Not necessarily a competition.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Feb 19, 2016 21:22:55 GMT -5
To be honest I'd love to get some world-building feed back, both on the world itself, and how well I'm doing in constructing it. But that's just me. Link me to stuff. Provide me with some specific and general questions alike. Show me things. Always glad to talk worldbuilding. Or put it on the blog you already have. |
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Post by The Counter Cultist(Sawyer) on Feb 19, 2016 21:42:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel like worldbuilding works better by people just asking for feedback. Not necessarily a competition. Fair point. Link me to stuff. Provide me with some specific and general questions alike. Show me things. Always glad to talk worldbuilding. Or put it on the blog you already have. That I never update; Jesus am I awful about that. I think I will post up some stuff(on the blog) Kaez, and I'll provide some links. Thanks for that. |
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Post by Sekot on Feb 21, 2016 19:04:36 GMT -5
Oh Mieville, you warm my heart so.
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Post by Kaez on Feb 21, 2016 19:12:39 GMT -5
Oh Mieville, you warm my heart so. ...if that's reflective of Mieville's writing style, I, uh... don't know that I'd like him very much. How completely tedious. |
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Post by Sekot on Feb 21, 2016 19:15:33 GMT -5
I cut out more parts of it. Not all of his writing is like that, but I think its beautiful. He'll just start philosophizing at random moments about weird things. It also makes more sense where it is in the book, he's in love with the bridge and what it represents.
But I guess since we can't agree on anything lately that yeah, you might find his writing a little tedious.
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Post by James on Feb 21, 2016 20:26:39 GMT -5
Pete is also becoming quite a proponent for efficiency about writing now ("what is the point of this?"), so I'm not sure Mieville will be a great fit with him. At all.
Actually, the same might be said for Harkaway too... oh no.
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