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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 16:51:13 GMT -5
I really like that idea of a combination. A massive ocean liner ship with huge compartments that are their own microcosms. I think that's the best mix for us to go with. And I think the AI/Mother Earth type symbolism is probably a nice fit. For a little bit of background, I had a nice idea for why they left Earth. Mitchell & Webb always had "The Event" for their end of the world quiz show. I thought a nice idea would be that Earth was lost in "The Event." Originally, that was due to a sort of hybrid fear and respect of the terrible thing that occurred. People didn't talk about it directly so it became The Event. But now, people don't even remember what The Event actually was. All they know was that they left because of The Event. I don't think the ship has to have a really, uh, "definite" shape/design. We can reference a part that's sort of an open-air cylinder and we can reference parts that seem exactly like a cruise ship and that can play to our comedic advantage. It allows us variety and cliques and I think that works to our advantage. The hippies in the earthen section will have this ironic sense of their habitat being "natural". 100% organic 'reclaimed' waterfalls. The folks in the highest deck of the cruise-ship section would be boderline-celebrities. Maybe have a fashion-spotlight section where everyone's always trying to mime the styles of the Level-9ers. I guess that can play to the type of radio show we are. The presenter and most of the crew have all lived in only one section for their whole life. They don't really know about the ship outside of that section. Except our sound technician, Brian, who emigrated from Section 41 and probably isn't a drug smuggler, but we just don't know, what with those section 41'ers.
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Post by J.O.N ((Dragonwing)) on Apr 25, 2014 16:53:01 GMT -5
I also feel we should have two presenters, be able to have riff off each other and they can be it so they hardly agree with other over something. Two bickering presenters is kind of cliched, though. Also, it might be making a rod for our own back. I imagine it's easier to produce a podcast with one host and guests, than with two hosts. Just because they're both going to have to be own at the exact same time, whereas with one host, we can record in segments. Is it? I've only listened to Nightvale for this sort of thing. But fair point about it being difficult.
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 16:59:09 GMT -5
Two bickering presenters is kind of cliched, though. Also, it might be making a rod for our own back. I imagine it's easier to produce a podcast with one host and guests, than with two hosts. Just because they're both going to have to be own at the exact same time, whereas with one host, we can record in segments. Is it? I've only listened to Nightvale for this sort of thing. But fair point about it being difficult. Comedy sketch shows and so on. I don't know, if people think two presenters can work we can give that a go. We just do need to be aware of practical issues as well as creative ones (for instance, if we want to do music, we're going to have to use out of copyright music).
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Post by J.O.N ((Dragonwing)) on Apr 25, 2014 17:03:44 GMT -5
Is it? I've only listened to Nightvale for this sort of thing. But fair point about it being difficult. Comedy sketch shows and so on. I don't know, if people think two presenters can work we can give that a go. We just do need to be aware of practical issues as well as creative ones (for instance, if we want to do music, we're going to have to use out of copyright music). Heh, we could have a segment where the presenter introduces it as "Turn on your holo projectors now for the daily art presentation", and just play elevator music.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Apr 25, 2014 17:07:54 GMT -5
What if... Instead of a radio show, it's just set up as a sort of giant conference call throughout the whole ship?
Like, you know how when you're at the department store and you suddenly hear a voice coming over an employees walkie talkie hooked to their belt; and you can hear people just chattering away about something completely irrelevant to you.
What if the whole broadcast were set up like that. Like the listener is just overhearing radio chatter between the ships maintenance crew or something? Or the POV is from the seat of the dispatcher sending poelple hither and yon to address various problems aboard the ship?
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 17:18:38 GMT -5
What if... Instead of a radio show, it's just set up as a sort of giant conference call throughout the whole ship? Like, you know how when you're at the department store and you suddenly hear a voice coming over an employees walkie talkie hooked to their belt; and you can hear people just chattering away about something completely irrelevant to you. What if the whole broadcast were set up like that. Like the listener is just overhearing radio chatter between the ships maintenance crew or something? Or the POV is from the seat of the dispatcher sending poelple hither and yon to address various problems aboard the ship? I'm not sure how practical that is. It means we could only really focus on the ship and its maintenance. We couldn't talk so much about society or the speculation of alien life and so on.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Apr 25, 2014 17:28:20 GMT -5
What if... Instead of a radio show, it's just set up as a sort of giant conference call throughout the whole ship? Like, you know how when you're at the department store and you suddenly hear a voice coming over an employees walkie talkie hooked to their belt; and you can hear people just chattering away about something completely irrelevant to you. What if the whole broadcast were set up like that. Like the listener is just overhearing radio chatter between the ships maintenance crew or something? Or the POV is from the seat of the dispatcher sending poelple hither and yon to address various problems aboard the ship? I'm not sure how practical that is. It means we could only really focus on the ship and its maintenance. We couldn't talk so much about society or the speculation of alien life and so on. Sure you could. Those maintenance folks are all people who live in society. There could be science and society and occupational humor and casual banter, gossip, all kinds of stuff. It'd just be people who work together talking to each other (via "radio") while doing their jobs. It would be less being -told- about life on board and more being -shown-.
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Post by Kaez on Apr 25, 2014 17:40:32 GMT -5
I also feel we should have two presenters, be able to have riff off each other and they can be it so they hardly agree with other over something. Two bickering presenters is kind of cliched, though. Also, it might be making a rod for our own back. I imagine it's easier to produce a podcast with one host and guests, than with two hosts. Just because they're both going to have to be own at the exact same time, whereas with one host, we can record in segments. Hmmm. Pros and cons to both. Cliche'd, maybe, but it sure does allow for some killer comedy.
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Post by Matteo ((Taed)) on Apr 25, 2014 18:38:54 GMT -5
From a production standpoint it is definitely way, way easier to have just one presenter. Maybe limit guest voices to commercials and the occasional interview.
I actually kind of love Zovo's idea, though. It's way different from what I was picturing, but it has a whole lot of potential.
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 18:45:36 GMT -5
From a production standpoint it is definitely way, way easier to have just one presenter. Maybe limit guest voices to commercials and the occasional interview. I actually kind of love Zovo's idea, though. It's way different from what I was picturing, but it has a whole lot of potential. Yeah, I guess I'm being thrown by how different it is to what we have. I don't know. I like it but I don't know if it has the same staying power as a radio show. Also, Zovo's idea has the same problems of multi-presenters, doesn't it? In terms of production.
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Post by Kaez on Apr 25, 2014 18:57:52 GMT -5
From a production standpoint it is definitely way, way easier to have just one presenter. Maybe limit guest voices to commercials and the occasional interview. I actually kind of love Zovo's idea, though. It's way different from what I was picturing, but it has a whole lot of potential. Yeah, I guess I'm being thrown by how different it is to what we have. I don't know. I like it but I don't know if it has the same staying power as a radio show. Also, Zovo's idea has the same problems of multi-presenters, doesn't it? In terms of production. Sure as hell seems like it to me. If not more.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Apr 25, 2014 19:09:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you guys mean by "production problems." If it's just "having more than one person talking at a time" you're going to have that issue with basically -any- idea aside from a guy just sitting alone reading a script.
I mean, I imagine any way we decide to do this it's going to become a matter of everyone recording sound files and having them all edited together by someone else. I mean, I'm no producer so I'm not totally sure, but I really doubt there are going to be too many times we'll be able to get a bunch of folks on Skype or whatever at the same time and just record it straight.
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 19:16:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you guys mean by "production problems." If it's just "having more than one person talking at a time" you're going to have that issue with basically -any- idea aside from a guy just sitting alone reading a script. I mean, I imagine any way we decide to do this it's going to become a matter of everyone recording sound files and having them all edited together by someone else. I mean, I'm no producer so I'm not totally sure, but I really doubt there are going to be too many times we'll be able to get a bunch of folks on Skype or whatever at the same time and just record it straight. The way I imagine we would record a radio show is: - Break it down into segments - If we only have one host, then we can record all their monologue whenever they're free - For commercials, we can record them whenever the voice actor is free - For the multi-voice part, we can then get those people on together and voice them (this would only be a manageable part of the show) - Edited the show together. For the "over the intercom" idea or multi-host radio shows, it's going to be conversations throughout, isn't it? So we'd have to either have people be on together or have people record their sections of a conversation and then edit it all together. Which might sound a little unnatural and remove any possibility of a dash of improv.
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2014 19:18:03 GMT -5
Also, for me at least, the production issues are kind of moot because I'd prefer the radio show format to the "over the intercom" format. But, I'm happy to be outvoted on that and to try and make the latter work if people prefer it.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Apr 25, 2014 19:23:09 GMT -5
Also, for me at least, the production issues are kind of moot because I'd prefer the radio show format to the "over the intercom" format. But, I'm happy to be outvoted on that and to try and make the latter work if people prefer it. Yeah, I see your points. It's an issue that's gonna crop up regardless, I guess it's just a matter of quantity. How often do you want to have to deal with it. Like you said, though, recording dialogue in isolation reduces the chances of improv... Similarly, so does a one-man radio host.
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