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Post by Meleta/Isoldaa on Nov 12, 2010 21:52:53 GMT -5
So I posted this last night: I've scanned a couple things in and was thinking that what I might do is post the image, and then maybe provide some background; the reason it was written, the particular lie it was meant to convey, etc. However, I haven't decided if these are thing anyone would be interested in reading? Or just self-indulgent introspection. It'll definitely be the latter, but if no one is actually interested in reading it I can keep it to myself. So. . . let me know before I post. Hmmm... *thoughtful chin tap... Oh, how to say this "nicely"* Meh - honesty works... Right now, I have a 17-year old son in the house, and an 11-year old daughter slamming into those oh-so-precious "golden years" of adolescence with a vengeance. So for me, well, gotta say I'm pretty full up on teenage angst and manipulation and melodrama for the forseeable future. XD What I would love to see, is some new work from the more mature Zovo - something for the November assignment maybe? Or, barring that, a worthwhile and thoughtful "expose" in verse form for the man you've become?
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Nov 12, 2010 22:00:10 GMT -5
So I posted this last night: I've scanned a couple things in and was thinking that what I might do is post the image, and then maybe provide some background; the reason it was written, the particular lie it was meant to convey, etc. However, I haven't decided if these are thing anyone would be interested in reading? Or just self-indulgent introspection. It'll definitely be the latter, but if no one is actually interested in reading it I can keep it to myself. So. . . let me know before I post. Hmmm... *thoughtful chin tap... Oh, how to say this "nicely"* Meh - honesty works... Right now, I have a 17-year old son in the house, and an 11-year old daughter slamming into those oh-so-precious "golden years" of adolescence with a vengeance. So for me, well, gotta say I'm pretty full up on teenage angst and manipulation and melodrama for the forseeable future. XD What I would love to see, is some new work from the more mature Zovo - something for the November assignment maybe? Or, barring that, a worthwhile and thoughtful "expose" in verse form for the man you've become? /glare. . . lol I am working on something for the November assignment, hopefully it'll turn out. I had some inspiration yesterday.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Nov 13, 2010 1:04:55 GMT -5
I think that came out wrong, Mel. I actually agree with you. I too have had enough of the angst, I already lived it once and there's little use in reliving it. I think I just got caught up in everyone wanting to see it, but, the fact is. . . I don't really think I wanna show it.
Everything worth posting (barring the one I mentioned that I can't find) is already posted here in this thread. The rest of it is a step backward with no real purpose here aside from comedic relief, so I'll not be posting it.
I think I probably would have had you not said anything, and I think I would have wished I hadn't. Thank you.
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Post by Kaez on Nov 13, 2010 1:15:08 GMT -5
I think that came out wrong, Mel. I actually agree with you. I too have had enough of the angst, I already lived it once and there's little use in reliving it. I think I just got caught up in everyone wanting to see it, but, the fact is. . . I don't really think I wanna show it. Everything worth posting (barring the one I mentioned that I can't find) is already posted here in this thread. The rest of it is a step backward with no real purpose here aside from comedic relief, so I'll not be posting it. I think I probably would have had you not said anything, and I think I would have wished I hadn't. Thank you. I'm going to take the opposite stance here. From my perspective, just so you know the full range of thoughts here, you really being this against posting it is what should be embarrassing. I've come to consider you to be probably the most mentally matured member here, but the idea that you'd be so embarrassed or put off by writing you did years ago... it just seems shallow, to me. Like you're okay with being as frank as possible with everyone, but not with yourself. And I'm not trying to insult you or anything. I've got no problem. It's just, to me, disappointingly uncharacteristic of that Zovo Persona I've come to know.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Nov 13, 2010 1:28:33 GMT -5
I think that came out wrong, Mel. I actually agree with you. I too have had enough of the angst, I already lived it once and there's little use in reliving it. I think I just got caught up in everyone wanting to see it, but, the fact is. . . I don't really think I wanna show it. Everything worth posting (barring the one I mentioned that I can't find) is already posted here in this thread. The rest of it is a step backward with no real purpose here aside from comedic relief, so I'll not be posting it. I think I probably would have had you not said anything, and I think I would have wished I hadn't. Thank you. I'm going to take the opposite stance here. From my perspective, just so you know the full range of thoughts here, you really being this against posting it is what should be embarrassing. I've come to consider you to be probably the most mentally matured member here, but the idea that you'd be so embarrassed or put off by writing you did years ago... it just seems shallow, to me. Like you're okay with being as frank as possible with everyone, but not with yourself. And I'm not trying to insult you or anything. I've got no problem. It's just, to me, disappointingly uncharacteristic of that Zovo Persona I've come to know. That's just it. I am being frank with myself. I know what it is and I know that there is no reason for it to be here. Posting it is, as I said, self-indulgent; it's just a means of re-experiencing events long past and. . . frankly. . . I wasn't having that good a time of it then. It's not that I'm trying to keep it secret, or hidden, it's just that for me there is no reason for it to be here. . . I'm already past it. I no longer write that poorly, so getting feedback on the mechanics serves no purpose as I've already improved well beyond that point. I am no longer going through the things I was when I wrote it, so commenting on the subject matter serves no purpose; and, like I said, it was largely lies, so any feedback provided would be about the wrong thing anyhow unless I provided the extensive backstory. And then we're just stumbling into biography territory. The only purpose it could possibly serve is as a means of comparison for other writers to say, like you said, "This is what Zovo wrote when he was my age." And despite whether you see it as better or worse than your own, I personally don't believe in measuring oneself against another. . . so I'll not be donating anything for -that- purpose.
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Post by Kaez on Nov 13, 2010 1:32:32 GMT -5
I'm going to take the opposite stance here. From my perspective, just so you know the full range of thoughts here, you really being this against posting it is what should be embarrassing. I've come to consider you to be probably the most mentally matured member here, but the idea that you'd be so embarrassed or put off by writing you did years ago... it just seems shallow, to me. Like you're okay with being as frank as possible with everyone, but not with yourself. And I'm not trying to insult you or anything. I've got no problem. It's just, to me, disappointingly uncharacteristic of that Zovo Persona I've come to know. That's just it. I am being frank with myself. I know what it is and I know that there is no reason for it to be here. Posting it is, as I said, self-indulgent; it's just a means of re-experiencing events long past and. . . frankly. . . I wasn't having that good a time of it then. It's not that I'm trying to keep it secret, or hidden, it's just that for me there is no reason for it to be here. . . I'm already past it. I no longer write that poorly, so getting feedback on the mechanics serves no purpose as I've already improved well beyond that point. I am no longer going through the things I was when I wrote it, so commenting on the subject matter serves no purpose; and, like I said, it was largely lies, so any feedback provided would be about the wrong thing anyhow unless I provided the extensive backstory. And then we're just stumbling into biography territory. The only purpose it could possibly serve is as a means of comparison for other writers to say, like you said, "This is what Zovo wrote when he was my age." And despite whether you see it as better or worse than your own, I personally don't believe in measuring oneself against another. . . so I'll not be donating anything for -that- purpose. Well son of a bitch. You sure did turn that shit back on me awfully quickly. I discontentedly concede your argument.
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Post by Meleta/Isoldaa on Nov 13, 2010 1:35:23 GMT -5
O.o... XD Oh no, Zovo - promise, my skin's really pretty thick, and I didn't think twice about a /glare at all! I was actually just popping back in to give you a little XD hehehehehe And you're welcome. Oh, I've got a ton of things I wrote a couple decades ago, in college and such, and some drawings - and I still look them over every once in a while too for fun, kinda like an artistic photo album? But I'd sooner /wrists than share it with anyone - those days are looooooong over (thank heavens... XD)
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Nov 13, 2010 1:40:54 GMT -5
I dunno if I'd go that far. I might be willing to show something to someone who could offer an adequate trade. But, yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
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Post by Meleta/Isoldaa on Nov 13, 2010 1:42:49 GMT -5
I dunno if I'd go that far. I might be willing to show something to someone who could offer an adequate trade. But, yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. HA! XD yeah sorry... Hyperbole - I got it tonight! >.>
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Mar 6, 2011 5:12:12 GMT -5
Comeuppance A Work in Progress
Never came up.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Mar 31, 2011 15:36:27 GMT -5
Killing Time Once I held the keys to everywhere I didn't go Once I knew the answers to the things I still don't know. And once I took the road less travelled and still can't understand How everything seems so fucked up when I never had a plan. Maybe it's just 2AM; TABTransient in mind. Maybe it's just who I am; TABAlways killing time I can't be sure. I turned away; refuse to face the fact That I'm tripping over forward 'cause I'm always looking back. That may be why I lie awake with all my doubts and and fears That may be why I tend to lie when no one else is here. 'Cause I dont know what I'm feeling and I don't know what it means But I know the scars are healing so it can't be what it seems. Maybe it's just 2AM. TABAnd maybe I'm just fine. Maybe it's just who I am; TABA wierdo killing time. ((Self Critique: Alright, lets get this out of the way, "Ew, rhyming, gross!" but, that's how it came to me, so that's how I wrote it. I feel like it has some rough edges, and at the same time it feels too uniform, too structured. I really like some of the phrases and how they work together, and the sentiment is honest--which is good--but there are other parts which feel more like filler and seem like they need trimming to make it right. But that might just be me lloking at the structure and going, "This isn't abstract enough! It's too obvious!"))
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Post by Kaez on Mar 31, 2011 15:39:36 GMT -5
Oh hey. I enjoyed that. It rhymed which is normally not good but it was good here. It seems relatable and honest. I don't see a lot of 'filler'. The word "weirdo" seemed a bit out of place to me; but maybe switching to a lighthearted tone after a serious piece was the idea.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Mar 31, 2011 15:44:03 GMT -5
Oh hey. I enjoyed that. It rhymed which is normally not good but it was good here. It seems relatable and honest. I don't see a lot of 'filler'. The word "weirdo" seemed a bit out of place to me; but maybe switching to a lighthearted tone after a serious piece was the idea. Actually, looking back at it, I don't see as much filler as I thought. There is more in the notebook that i scrawled it in that didn't make the cut to the posted version. . . Maybe I've still just got -that- stuff in my head so it still feels bloated to me. Did a little formatting to make it prettier to look at.
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Post by Narynan on Apr 1, 2011 0:15:13 GMT -5
"To Sleep; Perchance to Dream"
Wow, I would really have to go scrounging to dig that up. Yea, I may not have it tomorrow, but I can see if it's hiding out somewhere.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Apr 1, 2011 0:19:25 GMT -5
"To Sleep; Perchance to Dream" Wow, I would really have to go scrounging to dig that up. Yea, I may not have it tomorrow, but I can see if it's hiding out somewhere. If you -do- find it, PM it to me. I wanna give a reread before it gets posted. I haven't seen it in. . . shit, 14 years.
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