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Post by The Timeless One on Jan 16, 2010 14:58:31 GMT -5
Mine will be up by tonight. Probably even in about...an hour and a half from now.
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Jan 16, 2010 15:04:07 GMT -5
As a judge I've got no issues with extension just considering the difficulty of the topic and the poor turn out.
As a guy with a life outside of AWR, an extension puts me reading and judging on a Monday night. . . so that's a little bit complicated.
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Post by The Timeless One on Jan 16, 2010 15:15:19 GMT -5
Yeah, see, that's why I don't think everyone should be given an extension. Maybe a few people who we hear from beforehand and actually have a good reason for not finishing it, like Ali. But if it's just "I didn't know what to write", or "I forgot", or they don't say anything at all, I think it should be considered late. I don't want to be harsh, but if we just push pack the deadline everytime someone's behind it, there's not much point to it, is there?
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Post by ASGetty ((Zovo)) on Jan 16, 2010 15:24:58 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with you, Drall. Giving extensions does seem unfair to those who worked hard to get their submission in by the dealine; however at the same time, -not- giving extensions is going to eliminate alot of people really fast, and those who have posted are going to be given the "gimmie" this round and advance with no competition. . . almost equally disrespectful.
Additionally, alot of the folks we're waiting on haven't even logged on to ask for an extension so there's little reason to believe that adding a day wil do any good anyhow.
I think Agro's got the right idea to just you guys decide for yourselves. If you've already posted and your competitor has not, it's really up to you to decide whether or not you want to give them an extra day. For those pairing in which -no on- has posted yet. . . well, I dunno about that.
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Post by theredbaron on Jan 16, 2010 15:29:55 GMT -5
I've been working on mine since Thursday. It took awhile to get a nice plot, and I'm still not sure how to end it as of right now. I'll get in by today, no problem, but I have an engagement tonight. So expect it to be up a little late.
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Post by The Timeless One on Jan 16, 2010 15:42:47 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with you, Drall. Giving extensions does seem unfair to those who worked hard to get their submission in by the dealine; however at the same time, -not- giving extensions is going to eliminate alot of people really fast, and those who have posted are going to be given the "gimmie" this round and advance with no competition. . . almost equally disrespectful. Additionally, alot of the folks we're waiting on haven't even logged on to ask for an extension so there's little reason to believe that adding a day wil do any good anyhow. I think Agro's got the right idea to just you guys decide for yourselves. If you've already posted and your competitor has not, it's really up to you to decide whether or not you want to give them an extra day. For those pairing in which -no on- has posted yet. . . well, I dunno about that. The thing is, if the other person has to decide if their opponent should be given an extension, the answer will always be "Sure". It would seem petty for someone to deny the other a fighting chance, even if it may be the right. It wouldn't feel like I won if I advanced by default. I think the judges should be the ones to decide. That way, there's no hard feelings from the competitors. I stand by my original point though, if they have a good reason, give them a bit longer. If they haven't even come on, I say kick em out. Like you said, a day wouldn't make a difference if they haven't come on in a week.
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Post by James on Jan 16, 2010 15:55:31 GMT -5
It wouldn't feel like I won if I advanced by default.
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Post by The Timeless One on Jan 16, 2010 16:13:10 GMT -5
Well, mine's up. Now the fates (i.e judges) will decide who will move on, and who will become shark bait.
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jan 16, 2010 21:58:02 GMT -5
Warning - speaking my mind (not intended to be mean!)
Well, shit ... I worked pretty damned hard on my story, for at least 4 days out of this week, and got it posted early. To only have 3 entries is like a kick in the teeth. This is supposed to be a "serious competition."
I can understand real life stuff (like Waldy mentioned, and poor Ali's accident) but what happened to the other explanations/apologies? :[ (Admittedly there is still a few hours on my time-zone for those still to enter.)
Drall is also right. Winning by default is shitty ... so the only choice would be to open it up for another 24 hours (judges post when and as they can coz poor Zovo has time restraints.)
Think the final decision should be made by the judges, since it is their time being soaked up judging it. We had a week already to write something/anything.
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Post by The Drall on Jan 16, 2010 22:25:13 GMT -5
Seriously, while winning by default isn't fun, I don't think giving another 24 hours is the right thing. They had a week to write something, and if they couldn't get it in by that time, they should have at least thought to come online to say why they're delayed.
Unless something happened (i.e death) and they had no access to a computer, or there were family issues, or anything of that sort, then it's their own fault. The people who need an extension should be given an extension, but to the others, they're out.
In the end, though, it's the judge's decision. I'm just speaking my mind. Which is feeling very harsh at the moment.
EDIT: If no one posts anything and we allow Ali another 24 hours, we have our semi finals right there. I think all four of us have shown we're capable of getting our stories done.
Though I suspect Taed will have something up soon...
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Post by James on Jan 16, 2010 22:29:22 GMT -5
Except you already know the judges' decision. We're all fine with extensions but under the rule/tradition that we have used since the very first competition, it is up to the person's opponent to decide if there should be an extension granted.
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Post by James on Jan 16, 2010 22:31:14 GMT -5
they had no access to a computer And these people can ask for extensions without their computer, right? That's why I'm fine with the blanket extension. Maybe someone won't be able to get on till Sunday. According to you, that's too late. Even though other people can post on Sunday because they asked.
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Post by The Drall on Jan 16, 2010 22:53:02 GMT -5
Fair enough, then.
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Post by Jenny (Reffy) on Jan 16, 2010 23:35:43 GMT -5
Above post was just me ranting. I'm over it now. Would rather win/lose fairly than default. My opponent [Prologue] is welcome to another 24 hours, since the judges have already decided that it is ok with them.
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Post by Jt on Jan 16, 2010 23:50:16 GMT -5
Mel says she has a story to post, but she cannot post it until her husband gets off of his computer, it's still the only PC that will allow her to log into AWR.
She also apologizes.
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